megan in akron ohio. hi welcome. >> caller: hi. i just have a question for you. about the viability of a challenge to this in michigan. what can they do? >> stephanie: megan, i was doing that story earlier that the unions are saying -- this fight is not over. there may be a way you know, to be able to -- i don't know the technical term for it. basically to be able to put it back -- >> negative ballot initiative. some other options. >> stephanie: if they get enough signatures -- >> the history is not on their side. every time they try to do that, it has been -- >> stephanie: look at sb5 in ohio. take heart from that. i want to ask you quickly -- [ ♪ "world news tonight" ♪ ] we talked about this earlier. hal sparks, high profile famous person as well. kevin class the voice of elmo has been accused by a fourth accuser who claimed he had a sexual relationship with him when he was younger. when he paid off the first guy now -- you know, this guy said this happened in 1995. he realized how emotionally damaged he is. i just -- >> that smacks of opportunism. >> that'